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Clinton, Obama and double standards

19 Dec 2007 11:17 am

Are the media treating Hillary Clinton more harshly than Barack Obama? Howard Kurtz in the Washington Post:

Clinton's senior advisers have grown convinced that the media deck is stacked against them, that their candidate is drawing far harsher scrutiny than Barack Obama. And at least some journalists agree.

"She's just held to a different standard in every respect," says Mark Halperin, Time's editor at large. "The press rooted for Obama to go negative, and when he did he was applauded. When she does it, it's treated as this huge violation of propriety." While Clinton's mistakes deserve full coverage, Halperin says, "the press's flaws -- wild swings, accentuating the negative -- are magnified 50 times when it comes to her. It's not a level playing field."

The article cites plenty of instances. I think there's no question that Obama has been given an easy ride. It struck me throughout the televised debates that Clinton was generally declared the winner, but by a narrow or less-than-commanding margin--whereas in fact she nearly always trounced him. Quite a few commentators have called her slip over driver's licences for illegal immigrants in the Philadelphia debate a turning-point: since then she's been in trouble, they say. But Obama made a complete fool of himself on the very same issue in the next debate, by which time Hillary had sorted out her line, and he got away with it. Yes, the press is failing to be objective. Yes, it is treating Hillary quite harshly, while fawning over Obama.

But is this sentiment peculiar to the press, I wonder, or a feeling in the country at large? I suspect the latter. The United States may have doubts about Obama's policies (if it knows or cares) or lack of experience (compared with Hillary's such as it is), but it likes him. He is new, and the country is giving him the benefit of the doubt. When it comes to Hillary, there is no such instinct. She is asking for eight years in the White House--another eight years, as her claim of greater experience keeps reminding people--and people seem tired of her already.

Bill makes this worse. Predictably, with problems in Iowa and her national numbers starting to slide, he is playing a more forward role. David Warsh, author of the indispensable Economic Principals, drew my attention to this column by Alex Beam in the Boston Globe:

In 1999, after almost seven years of Bill Clinton's rule, the commentariat christened a new buzzterm: Clinton fatigue. The peccadilloes, the double-dealing, the outright lying had overwhelmed the American public. "The Clintons have finally worn out their welcome," wrote columnist Linda Bowles. "There is a prevailing sentiment that it's time for them to go, and to take their baggage with them."

Clinton fatigue. With the presidential election less than 11 months away, I am feeling it already.

I'm not talking about Mrs. Clinton...

My Clinton fatigue is about Bill. I am getting sick of him.

Bill's problem is that he has no idea of how to be a political wife. Right now, Michelle Obama is the best in the business. Smart, accomplished, articulate, and capable of projecting empathy, she moves the Obama campaign forward with every appearance. She fills the stage without stealing the spotlight from her husband, from Oprah, or from whoever she appears with. With Bill Clinton, it's just the opposite...

[An angle suggested by Herald columnist Margery Eagan:] Is Bill "The Underminer," as defined by the hilarious book of the same name by Mike Albo and Virginia Heffernan? The underminer is your "friend" who waxes enthusiastic about your fabulous trip to New Zealand, and then lets slip that he was hang-gliding there in the early 1980s, you know, before all the American tourists arrived.

Mainly, I think Bill makes his wife look weak. Otherwise, why would she need his help? And he reminds people just how long this double-act has been in business. When it comes to policies, Hillary may in fact be more of a "change candidate" than Obama (see Paul Krugman on this), hard though it is to say, ahead of time, how either presidency would work in practice. The point is, with Bill at her elbow, she does not look or sound like the change candidate. The more she relies on him, the more stale and diminished she will seem.

Comments (58)

The powerful and manipulative Clinton spin machine is a formidable enough opponent for Obama - is the media supposed to add to that? I think both Obama and Clinton have received about the same media scrutiny depending on the source. Anyone who reads thoroughly can detect the bias in each source. And of course, those who don't - the majority - read the headlines. These are oftentimes pro-Clinton as often as they are pro-Obama. This whining by the Clintons is just another excuse to explain Obama's popularity. It's not due to the media - it's due to the man.

Not sure I agree with everything in this article but at least it starts to expose some of the disparity in campaign coverage.

Would be good as well for many to check out the misogyny of both the internet and MSM towards HIllary Clinton as noted by historian Kathleen Hall Jamieson in a recent Bill Moyers Journal piece. http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/12072007/watch.html

(it starts about 4 1/2 minutes into the show)

As a Clinton supporter it is extremely upsetting to watch the press coverage without any balance.

Hillary can dish it out but not take it? Bill is a handicap to her campaign?
Are you kidding? Are we supposed to feel sorry for her? Our future president?

Senator Hillary Clinton is not waiting on her husband in this campaign. She appreciates his charisma and goodwill, but she is actually leading the way.

Ah, NO. It's the media's propping up and fawning over Obama. Not the country at large, and certainly not the Democratic Party. That's why, despite the press, she's winning and he's losing, she's got the highest favorables among her Party, while he comes in 20 points behind her. Nice try. But, no.

Could it possibly be some kind of Vast Left Wing Conspiracy?

Clinton has gotten some tough press coverage, sure, but is it really unwarranted? Kindergate, distortions of Obama's voting record ("present" votes that were coordinated), and the drug and muslim smears pushed by surrogates were all incredibly dirty, and I'm *glad* the media is no longer being "objective" by repeating smears verbatim without comment like they did in 2004. The media remembers all of the old Clinton scandals, so why should Hillary get a pass for going so directly and dishonestly negative?

Sure, Obama has gone on offense over some of her policies and what a Clinton presidency would mean in Washington. But that's the kind of hard-nosed campaigning that happens in any political race. He certainly hasn't been nearly as personal in his attacks as Clinton has these past few weeks.

Hillary is unfair to herself, with staffers comments about kindergargen dreams,cocaine use, to deer in the headlights looks when Bill
wanders off in the grocery store. I believe that she is such and egomanic she looses track of the small details that will trip her up. AS she weakens Barack grows stronger and more assertive.

"Barak Hussion Obama" is an true Islam name and you can see how rooted this man is in Islam! If he became the president, America will be surrendered to Osma Bin Ladin, Obama's brother!

Stop crying Clinton campaign. Woman up! All we heard this year was she is inevitable. Clinton wins a debate because she didn't make a mistake. Clinton calls Obama naive and experienced and the media bought in to it and they keep repeating it even if it’s not true. The worst part is that mainly CNN and other news outlets stack their commentators with former Clinton employees and supporters.
If we are honest with ourselves she does have less experience than Obama (she never was an elected official until 2001) and Edwards has the least amount of experience in the democratic field. I believe she is getting a pass at the experience thing because she is a woman. I am a woman and saying this. No man would ever be able to claim their wife’s experience as their own. He would be called a wimp. That’s a fact.
I wish the Clinton campaign would stop sending out surrogates to do their dirty work and quit complaining get some back bone. Start talking about the issues and leave her husband at home. Is this where the fun starts?

Alicia is a scumbag!

The history of Hillary's relationship with Bill gives reason enough to closely scrutinize her, and to closely scrutinize how functional the pair might be if they again live amidst the scene of Monica-gate. Hillary has plenty of baggage that has to do with her dysfunctional marriage. I want this facet of her campaign to be closely scrutinized, for if Bill is a loose wheel in Iowa, wait and see what he'll do to a unified foreign policy. it's naive to think of HRC as a woman, for she is a woman following in her husband's tainted footsteps.

Most of the campaign coverage has been laudatory of Hillary Clinton until the pivotal debate moment.

The Edwards campaign came out with the YouTube video highlighting her waffling and inability to clearly take a stand in favor or against. Remember, it was a yes or no question.

The Clinton's are infamous for spin and prevarication. Obama is not.

Both Obama and Edwards pointed out Sen. Clinton's shortcomings on clearly stating her position -- on anything important. Both pointed out her votes on Iraq and Iran.

She tried to spin this as mud-slinging. And then she and her campaign retaliated -- not on Obama's presentation (he's clear on where he stands and a born inspirational speaker but could be more specific in some instances) -- but on his kindergarten and third grade aspirations. And his teenage experimentation with drugs. And with his family connection to Muslims.

All of her attacks have been small and petty. And she has claimed no knowledge of the attacks before. She shouldn't.

But she's been demonstrating by the continued ridiculous and petty attacks from her campaign (and now Kerry) that she is NOT a leader -- she cannot guide and control her people.

She's failing as a leader of her own campaign. She makes no real apologies, she makes lame excuses, and she makes no changes. The problems keep cropping up.

If she really is an effective leader on this one, very small issue, where are the results?

She can't lead her campaign, let alone the country.

The mainstream media, stenographers that they are, notate everything dutifully before passing it on the the pundits.

The media is awful, but they're pretty uniform in their covering the pettiness of all the campaigns. Clinton's campaign has been at the forefront of pettiness, so she looks the worst.

But she deserves it.

Don't forget Press had pretty much writtent off Obama when he was 20 points behind. If you want to see How Press is to Clintons, please view the CNN debate by Wolfe Blitzer, talk about bias. In the same debate Obama was chewed up by press with his longer answer (even though he said clearly that he would consider Drivers license as part of bigger Immegration reform. When Hillary answered that she was "Not" after saying "It makes sense" in the previous debate, wolfe didn't even bother asking why she changed her position! Then after debate CNN had James Carville to declare Hillary as winner and he neither CNN informed the viewers that he was advising Hillary Campaign. You should read the out pouring of Blogs portraying CNN to be "Clinton Network News"..!

Yes, the media has given Obama a free ride. It's ridiculous that such an inexperienced candidate is not being hit hard. And no, Bill Clinton is not a handicap. The media are the ones whose heads are exploding seeing a strong, powerful woman with a strong, powerful spouse, and both happy with that arrangement.

See, it does not fit any of their hidebound and sexist notions. One person in the partnership HAS to be the dominant one, and the other has to be the submissive. Because Hillary and Bill refuse to fit their narrative either way, the talking head and blathering ink circuit are freaking out.

This is not new. When Bill ran, Hillary was called too aggressive, too involved, not retiring enough like a political spouse "ought" to be. Blah blah blah. Now we are hearing the same story abut Bill. What is it about an equal marriage that gets their jockeys in such a twist?

I am laughing because my husband and I have a similar partnership. I understand the Clintons completely, even if the Georgetown Social Club does not.

Go, Hillary!

Unfortunately for Senator Clinton, we are all too familiar with her. She can't start running against Senator Obama, until she can overcome her past and Bill's past. This might take even longer than this extraordinarily long election season. It must be frustrating for the Clinton campaign.

Your right, Obama's accusing Hillary of possibly being a little disingenuous is on par with the Clinton Campaign insinuating that Barack sold drugs and was raised in a Madrassa

There definitely have been double standards. For some reason they treat Obama not as bad as our next president Hillary Clinton.

Perhaps if Obama had been caught planting softball questions, staff who send out trash emails and statements, and gets smooched by CNN witha planted question about diamonds and pearls, then the media would be less forgiving. The media has been easy on Obama because he is clean.
Lincoln returns from Illinois to save America.

The CNN debate was pro-Hillary with Wolf openly saying things like he did not even know what triangulating meant and finally the pearls question. CNN = Clinton News Network. Despite having the backing of such a huge television network they complain of media bias.

"In 1999, after almost seven years of Bill Clinton's rule, the commentariat christened a new buzzterm: Clinton fatigue. The peccadilloes, the double-dealing, the outright lying had overwhelmed the American public. There is a prevailing sentiment that it's time for them to go, and to take their baggage with them." -Linda Bowles

The Clintons withdrew, pilfered the White House when they did. Clinton fatigue. Now they're back, Hill-o-copters, buses, all the fanfare of a national election. Whew. It seems like only yesterday, when I heard the voice on the radio talking about plans for a new college. It was big news too, considering a college is usually the single largest employer in any town. It seemed a new wind was about to sweep the Central Coast. The Clintons were about to cut a wider swath, than they have so far received credit: http://theseedsof9-11.com

Remember that Lincoln is one of our greatest presidents, and that he came with only a term in the house of representatives. Judgment matters more. Obama has it.

Obama is today's Abraham Lincoln. Returned to keep America whole.

I have been saying for months it will be Barack Obama vs Huckabee, and you know what ? , i`m fine with it. For the first time in my life I`m happy with two candidates on opposite sides.

Her campaign has done a pathetic job of explaining to people how her experience will shape the future directions for the country and contrast that to Obama's and Edwards's inexperience.

What has she achieved on her own? Her campaign never told us.

Their arrogance and sense of entitlement of the nomination made them think they do not need to explain why she is any better.

Obama has run a fantastic campaign CHOOSING to peak at the right time. He has avoided negativity but shown he is tough and assertive enough to draw distinctions on policy.

In the end who wants to elect a president they do not really like?

Obama's message of unity, thoughtfulness and hope is overwhelming and trouncing Billary's message of "back to the future"

The rest is just poetry.

The media has been much tougher on Clinton than Obama, and it indeed flows from the fact that the latter is a more likable human being. There's not much to be done about it either way. But the problem for the Democrats is, the way the primary process works, a weak candidate can wrap things up very early via a momentum surge if he wins a couple of key, early contests. I'm not saying Obama is a weak candidate, but we'd never know either way until it's too late, given the lack of media scrutiny. A candidate who can handle a campaign crisis or two is a better bet in a general election. It may all be moot know anyway: he who laughs last laughs best. Both Clinton and Obama have had their surges, but I'd rather surge as close as possible to January 3rd; John Edwards seems to be timing things perfectly.

The truth is that the press, by fawning over Hillary, talking about her inevitability, her campaign's competence, blah, blah, just a few short months ago, they gave her an easy ride and every other candidate, Obama included, was getting nowhere because of their blatant favoritism.

When the press could no longer deny that she and her campaign have a "glass jaw" that breaks upon challenging criticism from foes, Hillary, Bill, and the campaign went into talispin mode and still have not emerged from it.

The article above, howeve, is correct that Clinton fatigue is rampant in the country and that Americans in large numbers want someone new to emerge and lead.

I hope it is Obama.

I love it when people call me names. When they get personal it means that I am right. Everyone who knows about politics knows that the media is stacked with ex-Clinton officials. From CNN, ABC and even FOX. Look at the commentators or guest that are invited to the shows all ex-Clintonites. Look at your major liberal blogs nothing but Clintonites. So yes the campaign needs to stop whining. Isn't the inevitable one supposed to be vetted too? Wasn't she just saying how tough she is? If this is so why not see the media attention as a test of strength instead her campaign complaints look like a sign of weakness. Well, I thought she was "in it to win it" no she just wanted it handed to her. I guess I thought wrong.
As for being the first female president it’s a joke. The legions of Hillary supporters wanted the presidency given to her because she is a woman. They are the same ones who forget (just one of many things she has not earned) got her position as the Junior Senator from NY because she married the right man who then made a deal with Charlie Rangel. What a real step forward for gender equality.

The media in general play a larger role for the imbalance in the treatment of Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama. The same media which hailed George Bush about eight years ago as God-sent today cannot say enough of the wrong direction his administration has led this country, economically, politically and militarily. On the other hand the media cannot remind the country of a great president Bill Clinton was, the great job he does all over the world fighting poverty and disease and empowering a lot of third world countries to grow economically and politically which in turn promotes Americanism. The media and their half-minded analyst cannot see that there are more problems if President Clinton campaigns for his wife than be cowed into silence so that the same media will say, "look, her husband is not supporting her". Hillary Clinton's campaign will not be thrown into disarray by the so-called analysts who may have better jobs in the campaign camps of their favorites and stop decieving the nation by their faulty analysis and give the American people to exercise their individual minds to deny if they did not have better times during the President Clinton's tenure than any time in memory. This gives President Clinton the right to campaign for Hillary Clinton, who should be very proud of what they have accomplished together. If in the pack of presidential aspirants, she appears more ready to lead because of her experience in government, economy, international affairs, healthcare, children, women and American issues, she has enough contenders to deal with and that does not include the media. We are paying attention.

You tell me about her experience. Biden, Dodd and Richardson have experience. She has experience by marriage like Bush had experience by birth right.

What I noticed when it comes down to big decisions Hillary Clinton is on the wrong side of the issues. She was wrong on NAFTA, health care, Iraq and Iran. She continues to be wrong when she mandates healthcare. I cannot think of one thing she has done except name new post offices and bring a whole 20 new jobs to upstate NY when she promised hundreds.

Obama is a person of real substance (abuse).

;-)

Riiiiight Hillary - you're not losing because you're completely unlikable and no one trusts you. It's the media's fault.

Forget about who has or has not been treated fairly by the media. When deciding between who is the most qualified to run this nation, all you have to do is look at how the two candidates have performed in running their respective campaigns.
Hillary had a huge political machine in place, unlimited funds and endorsements. She couldn't possibly lose, could she? Obama came from nowhere, had no organization or money when he announced against all odds in January. Look at the results--Obama has a well-organized national political organization, has raised an amazing amounts of money, and has the endorsements from many prominent Democrats and others. He also has the race in a position where he has the very real chance to win not only Iowa (the oddsmakers have him 2 to 1 to win Iowa now,) but to also win New Hampshire and South Carolina. Hillary has been disorganized and indecisive (she has gone from tough, to experienced, to an agent of change, and currently to warm and soft.) She changes with every new poll that shows her losing momentum to Obama. Her campaign is a mess-with good old Bill coming in to try to save the day.
This is not a good reflection on Hillary as a leader. She better go back to New York and be happy to be a senator. Her national political career is almost over, and it couldn't happen too soon.

Oh cry me a river.

The only reason Hillary is even viable in this election is because of her name recognition, and the accomplishments of her husband. She can thank the press for that.

If the press were doing their job AT ALL, they would look inquire about Hillary's "experience" and report the truth, that next to Edwards, Hillary is the LEAST experienced of the bunch.

And where is the press coverage about the polls that show Hillary doing the WORST of all the other democrats in the general election?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/103366/Whom-Would-Americans-Vote-Next-November.aspx

The Hillary camp has the media by the balls, and tightly controls ALL of their press, so i have no sympathy for the Clintons.

Excuse me, does anyone remember the year-long run-up to this primary where the media did nothing but agree with Hillary Clinton's questionable claims of greater experience and electability? Only through proving himself in fundraising and in the polls has Obama muscled his way into the well-deserved positive coverage he enjoys today. Does anyone remember the MSM repeatedly calling Obama out for perceived "gaffes" throughout the summer and fall? Only when it became clear that the American public was responding to these policy statements for what they are, clear-sighted, non-orthodox policy did the Washington press corps start to get it. Of course the Hillary camp is crying foul now that the press has deviated from their message. Let's see this for what it is and vote for the candidate with the integrity and courage to make a real difference in this nation, not someone who blames external causes for all of their woes.

Hillary "doth protest too much". When you've got as much baggage, spread so much b.s, exclude the press and public from Q & A sessions, what can you expect.

It is my hope that we may have three days next week when the "off" switch is applied to this campaign. I've not only got "Clinton Fatigue", but am close to "Clinton Exhaustion".

Hillary is in a full blown panic. She should be.
I loved Bill but his time is passed. Obama, though his impressive strategy , has shown that he is very capable. No more insiders,please, pass me the rtefreshing, crisp, non- jaded, optimistic, FRONTRUNNER !

Can the Clintons just go away already? I'm sick of them... They are like those people that knock on your door witnessing (you know who I'm talking about). They are like gum on the bottom of your shoe, it just won't come completely off no matter how hard you scape your shoe on the cement (you really want it gone). Just go already... One Presidency isn't enough? A senator of NY isn't enough? Aren't you rich and powerful enough? Will the Clinton machine groom Chelsea to run one day? They are like OJ, he couldn't just take his murder acquittal and disappear. He has to keep making news. HRC, take some lessons from Robert Blake, not OJ. Blake was smart enough to disappear. Please be happy with the power and wealth you have accumulated and disappear. The American people deserve a president that won't be plagued with 4 to 8 years of controversy. White water, Monica, and other bull crap that is sure to come up. HRC is right, Senator Obama doesn't have the vetting trifle mess you have and therefore you point out kindergarten essays and teenage foolishness that was already written about. Just go already...

I don't think anyone's time as being the spouse of a president should count as experience. Hillary is riding on the wave of accomplishments by the then inexperienced Bill Clinton. Obama has more experience than Hillary and since the country needs a new direction, he deserves the party's nomination.

Finally someone in the press is doing something on this!!!!Just turn on Hardball and you will see how AWFUL and sexist Chris Matthews and his buddies are to Hillary.Devoting whole shows to make fun of her laugh to make fun of how she claps it goes on and on....Im starting to wonder if some of these press shows are on Obama's payroll?? It's sad to me that Im a young guy and I have to point out the sexism!!There is this "hands off policy" with the press and Obama,they are NOT doing their homework on him.He has been pretty bad in these debates as he stumbles and fumbles through them and the press says NOTHING about it!No matter who you are for you cannot ignore the level of scrutiny Hillary is under compared to all the others.As far as the internet goes its filled with attacks on Hillary all from Obama's people,his fans are dividing democrats (not good)he is not ready to debate the republicans they will eat him for lunch in these debates.

Who has more experience? Hillary Clinton has 6 years experience in elected office. Barack Obama has more than 11 years in elected office. Hillary Clinton is a lawyer. Barack Obama is a Civil Rights Lawyer, head of the Harvard Law Review, and taught Constitutional Law. Hllary Clinton worked from the White House for health care, and was head of a task force whose initiative failed. Barack Obama worked on the ground in Chicago as a community organizer for some of the poorest people in the state. In the State Senate, he initiated legislation providing over 100million in tax cuts to families, and pushed through the expansion of early childhood education. In the US Senate for three years now, he is a member of the Foreign Relations Committee and the Veteran Affairs Committee, has worked successfully accross party lines, and wrote the law that now allows every American to track our tax dollars. He has been involved in initiating and supporting legislation for ethics reform. Barack Obama has the right kind of experience to lead America into a new era.

Tom Donahue,

if you think Obama is a bad debater, check this out.. Hillary had to eat her mean comment and laugh..!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=03cjEJE_QTA

How is it when the wives of candidates go out on the campaign trail, it's something out of Norman Rockewell? It shows family support & the press just eats it up. But when Bill Clinton goes out, it makes Hillary look weak. Elizabeth makes Edwards look strong? But Bill makes Hillary look weak. How many ways can you spell double standard?
Some of you folks beyond comprehension

Gib - Obama did the very same thing re: licenses for undocumented residents in the very next debate, but the media has conveniently forgotten about that. There is absolutely no question the media is favoring Obama and sparing him the same vetting as other candidates. All of his potentially scandalous situations have been smoothed over b/c they don't promote the narrative the media wants to tell. the best part is, HRC is STILL prevailing and will win both the nomination (on 2/5 to be exact) and the presidency.

Bill makes it worse? Are you crazy? Do you realize that 26% of Hillary's supporters back her solely because she is his wife? Do some research, Hillary wouldn't be anywhere without her husband. And eight years of experience learning where the light switches are and determining the color of rooms does not count as experience that a president needs. It is ridiculous to even point that out.

Everyone here should vote for someone who has REAL experience, someone who has qualifications exceeding the call of duty for a presidential candidate. We should vote for someone who we know can bring change, because he has done so in the past, and has a record to prove it. That man is Joe Biden.

Biden '08

The media practically anointed Clinton the next president for most of the year. She was deemed invincible. Meanwhile many of Obama's positions on various issues was ignored or misrepresented.

Case in point:

Moderator Brian Williams: You said recently, "No one is suffering more than the Palestinian people." Do you stand by that remark?

Obama: Well, keep in mind what the remark actually, if you had the whole thing, said. And what I said is nobody has suffered more than the Palestinian people from the failure of the Palestinian leadership to recognize Israel, to renounce violence, and to get serious about negotiating peace and security for the region.

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HUGE DIFFERENCE

Please, Obama has not "gone negative," but merely has responded to nasty character attacks and misleading characterizations of his proposals by the Clinton campaign--this after many weeks of keeping quiet. The media have not been overly kind to Obama, IMO. I've been watching the coverage and feel that she's gotten some mileage out of her attacks.

I don't think the writer of this article fairly characterizes what has transpired to date.

BANG!

NYTimes: Clintons library turned donations to government favors:

Toward the end of the Clinton administration, Dr. Richard Machado Gonzalez and his lawyer, Miguel D. Lausell, both major Democratic donors in the 1996 presidential election, were pushing the president to increase Medicare reimbursements to hospitals in Puerto Rico, like the one owned by Dr. Machado. Mr. Lausell pledged $1 million to the library in 1999, eight months before Mr. Clinton proposed increasing Medicare payments to Puerto Rico for the second time in his administration. Dr. Machado gave the foundation $100,000 about six months later.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20clinton.html?pagewanted=1

It's not about the Clinton campaign. It's about a Presidential candidate (Obama) who is not getting the heat. Where's the heat?

Compare Tim Russert's grilling of Rudy over Bernard Kerik to Russert kid glove coddling of Obama on Rezko. "Rezko, who is he, tell us about him", passively letting Obama frame the issue. It looked as if Russert was embarrassed to bring up Rezko.

Clinton is battle-tested. Obama is a soft-boiled egg. Where is the heat?

You have got to be kidding.

From before she announced her candidacy, the press has touting Hillary Clinton's nomination as being called 'inevitable'. She has been summarily left off the hook by the press regarding her Iraq authorization vote.

The press jumped on Obama's 'gaffe' when he said he WOULD speak the leaders of our 'enemies', when it was the patently CORRECT answer.

Frankly, who 'wins' a debate is not very valuable information. What counts, is a consistent, judicious trajectory in one's life and decisions. Obama's got it over Clinton in spades in that regard.

Watch Keith Olberman to see Hillary fawning and complete ignoring of Obama's campaign. Hillary (Billary) is way over the hill; her experience is composed of a track record of failure--on health care, voting for the Iraq war, her marriage. Her values are strictly for political expediency and personal ambition. She failed the bar exam (not smart, after all), and has been playing the mainstream sweet woman role while her attack dogs and husband smear her rival. This woman is NOT chanelling Eleanor Roosevelt; it's Catherine the Great of Russia we are watching here.

The Clinton double standards and spin skills amaze me. Bill's the world's best wonk (so far), but outside the policy arena, (I did not have sex with that woman) veracity was never a Clinton strong suit.

The Clinton camp seemed unconcerned with media bias when they took advantage of Obama's newcomer status and peddled his "inexperience" to the press. The daily press parroted this without reporting Obama's extensive and very successful legislative work outside DC or offering the Obama camp a chance to comment. So much so, that EXPERIENCE is now the number one concern among voters who don't know Obama well as a candidate, even though it's utter nonsense.

The facts: Obama's 8 years representing a large urban population in a Republican legislature, and as a successful champion of government ethics reform in scandal ridden, big budget Illinois sounds like the right kind of experience to me, and something Bill Clinton never encountered in small, poor, rural Arkansas.

Furthermore, right now Obama has a year's more Washington experience than Bill did in 1992. As we all know, a year's a very long time working with the Bush administration. By Jan 2009, that'll be 2 more very long years than Bill.

The lastest media salvo in my newspaper was Fromma Harrop's sydicated Providence Journal column: "Obama has the Audacity of Hype". Does that sound like media bias against Clinton to you?

Hillary Clinton is the right choice for the presidency because she is a very strong and mature politician. It is not only her recent years in congress or those before Arkansas, but those she spent in the Whitehouse that make her fully qualified. She has forgiven and lived through a period that tested her womanhood, she has helped her husband’s integrity and presidency to survive by not accusing him like nearly every other woman would have done. She has acted very intelligently all the time and wanted to be of value. To elect her is to do the right thing for the United States and for the world at large.

I do appreciate the ambition and strength of some other candidates in the race; but to nominate any other than Hillary from the Democratic side would be a dangerous mistake that could help the Republicans win the general election. That line has some evil in it, which, probably, I only understand.

This is absolutely WRONG! Obama has been attacked for expanding his yard, hiring a gospel singer, having a Muslim grandfather, being black, being endorsed by Oprah... He has falsely been acused of having less legislative experience than Hillary, THAT IS WRONG.
His foreign policy judgement has been questioned when he has been right on Iraq, Iran, and Afganistan.
THIS ARTICLE IS WRONG!!!! Oh wait its in The Washington Post, the paper owned by the Sun Y Moon, yeah, its op-eds are ALMOST kind of true! Bias Bias Bias-----------------------------

CNN (The Clinton News Network) is always promoting Hillary and her campaign. They have been for months. Same with all of the MSM. The Clintons should just stop whining and smearing Obama and go back to Arkansas. This country does not need 8 more years of them. No more dynasties. This country needs a new vision, new leadership, and that's Senator Obama.

Stop with the slanderous comments that he is Osama's brother and that there is substance abuse. At least he admitted that he inhaled. That's more than Bill would do. But the Clintons always want it both ways.

America can't afford to be wrong three times in a row (twice during the previous eight years). The Clinton administration has been right in its economics. Remember the treasury surplus Clinton left behind for the Bush administration to squander and turn into a deficit? It can be recouped if another Clinton is returned to the White House.

Pillow talk is powerful, and Bill will be a big influence on Hillary's economic policies. At a time when the American economy is at the pits,
it's no time to elect somebody whose economic policies are not as tested as during the Clinton years.

There are double standards regarding Hillary everywhere. She is a strong female, which automatically makes her hard and goal-obsessed. Basically, she's viewed as a bitch. Her same assertive qualities on any male candidate makes him a stronger leader. Hillary has even been criticized for calling herself the next President. Because...she wasn't going for that? The male candidates get no heat for doing the same thing.

The double standard is simply alive and well. That is it. Maybe, like Limbaugh said, America is just not ready to see a woman get older before their eyes. Apparently, we would much rather see a man get older before our eyes. Funny, I didn't really see the difference before. I think America still has some gender issues.

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